Thead Enco wrote:TLDR; Instead of recreating the god damn wheel just change the values on offensive mods so you can't fit them on the Rorqual in the first place.
How is this even remotely an Eve thing to do to a ship? I guarantee you if you removed the Battle Rorqual from existence you would have ten times the complaints this little joy of a thread is getting...
Iminent Penance wrote:"addressing" versus quoting jargon that goes against EVERYTHING they are actually doing in any other scenario are very different.
Maybe not to you with your biases in how you only flame people who want balance, but I mean fundamentally this is askiew for literally all other viewpoints.
Refer to my posts, if they did this blanket nerf to t3s and fozzie came and said "if its an issue we may change t3 requirements dont worry" You wouldn't say "SEE LOOK FOZZIE SAID SOMETHING" you'd flip your **** and would be 100% opposite the mindset you're at now.
Unless you're not really this ignorant and are instead an amazing troll, which would be funny, but fruitless to the insanity that these changes are
Lol, first off I'm not flaming anyone. I'm being a little sarcastic, but that's a far cry from flaming.
Second, I'm not against balance, I'm against uninformed people who want something to stay broken because they don't recognize the problem, and people who would rather gain a tiny amount of safety over implementing the actually better and more comprehensive solution to the existing problem.
Also, if you'd read *my* posts, like
this one I made 5 pages ago you'd know that I'm actually in favor of T3s getting nerfed because I think they push out too many other ship classes and are generally way too powerful.
paintballlawss Padecain wrote:If anything i would think CCP Fozzie would understand the risk vs reward and with these rorq changes for the drones there is no longer a reward like how do you not see that??
I'd say he probably does, considering he has far more comprehensive numbers about the volume they've been mining vs the number lost, as well as how many people are mining with them vs how many people are boosting. Judging by the number of kills vs the rough volume of Excavator Drones sold I'd way the game is still running very Rorqual positive at the moment, and everyone I've talked to in Null either knows someone with one, wants to buy one, or has bought one (or several) in the last few months.
For comparison here, the raw build price of a Super Carrier is down to around 12b right now (yay mineral market crashes) and the public sale price is still well above 20b, just to be conservative. The Rorqual currently makes about as much ISK per hour as that Super Carrier while risking less than half the value of the Super and for most users it's not even in that much more danger, because in most larger alliances you're about 1 ping away from rescue.
And that's just what we can extrapolate from publicly available data. Given Fozzie's comments in this thread it seems like most people are using Rorquals like they're at practically no risk at all. This shows in how big of a deal people are making out of the tiny risk imposed by the changes to PANIC activation.